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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micky,

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;In proportion as a man habitually yields to intemperance or some other vice, his freedom diminishes and he does in a true sense sink into slavery&quot;[1]

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

John 8:34-36 tells us that. The fact is that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). This means our will is &lt;i&gt;bound&lt;/i&gt; in sin and the one who has to set it free is Jesus Christ. There is no manner to which you can exercise your will out of the bondage of sin. To God be the Glory!

[1] You see, I can also quote the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06259a.htm&quot;&gt;Catholic encyclopedia&lt;/a&gt;, but I think it best to &lt;b&gt;reference&lt;/b&gt; the source, lest I become a thief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky,</p>
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&#8220;In proportion as a man habitually yields to intemperance or some other vice, his freedom diminishes and he does in a true sense sink into slavery&#8221;[1]</p>
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<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=John+8%3A34-36" class="bibleref" title="KJV John 8:34-36" target="_new">John 8:34-36</a> tells us that. The fact is that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (<a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Romans+3%3A23" class="bibleref" title="KJV Romans 3:23" target="_new">Romans 3:23</a>). This means our will is <i>bound</i> in sin and the one who has to set it free is Jesus Christ. There is no manner to which you can exercise your will out of the bondage of sin. To God be the Glory!</p>
<p>[1] You see, I can also quote the <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06259a.htm">Catholic encyclopedia</a>, but I think it best to <b>reference</b> the source, lest I become a thief.</p>
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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micky,

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;In proportion as a man habitually yields to intemperance or some other vice, his freedom diminishes and he does in a true sense sink into slavery&quot;[1]

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

John 8:34-36 tells us that. The fact is that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). This means our will is &lt;i&gt;bound&lt;/i&gt; in sin and the one who has to set it free is Jesus Christ. There is no manner to which you can exercise your will out of the bondage of sin. To God be the Glory!

[1] You see, I can also quote the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06259a.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Catholic encyclopedia&lt;/a&gt;, but I think it best to &lt;b&gt;reference&lt;/b&gt; the source, lest I become a thief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky,</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;In proportion as a man habitually yields to intemperance or some other vice, his freedom diminishes and he does in a true sense sink into slavery&#8221;[1]</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=John+8%3A34-36" class="bibleref" title="KJV John 8:34-36" target="_new">John 8:34-36</a> tells us that. The fact is that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (<a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Romans+3%3A23" class="bibleref" title="KJV Romans 3:23" target="_new">Romans 3:23</a>). This means our will is <i>bound</i> in sin and the one who has to set it free is Jesus Christ. There is no manner to which you can exercise your will out of the bondage of sin. To God be the Glory!</p>
<p>[1] You see, I can also quote the <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06259a.htm" rel="nofollow">Catholic encyclopedia</a>, but I think it best to <b>reference</b> the source, lest I become a thief.</p>
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		<title>By: Micky</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Micky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our moral freedom, like other mental powers, is strengthened by exercise. The practice of yielding to impulse results in enfeebling self-control. The faculty of inhibiting pressing desires, of concentrating attention on more remote goods, of reinforcing the higher but less urgent motives, undergoes a kind of atrophy by disuse.
PEACE BE WITH YOU
MICKY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our moral freedom, like other mental powers, is strengthened by exercise. The practice of yielding to impulse results in enfeebling self-control. The faculty of inhibiting pressing desires, of concentrating attention on more remote goods, of reinforcing the higher but less urgent motives, undergoes a kind of atrophy by disuse.<br />
PEACE BE WITH YOU<br />
MICKY</p>
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		<title>By: Micky</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>Micky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our moral freedom, like other mental powers, is strengthened by exercise. The practice of yielding to impulse results in enfeebling self-control. The faculty of inhibiting pressing desires, of concentrating attention on more remote goods, of reinforcing the higher but less urgent motives, undergoes a kind of atrophy by disuse.
PEACE BE WITH YOU
MICKY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our moral freedom, like other mental powers, is strengthened by exercise. The practice of yielding to impulse results in enfeebling self-control. The faculty of inhibiting pressing desires, of concentrating attention on more remote goods, of reinforcing the higher but less urgent motives, undergoes a kind of atrophy by disuse.<br />
PEACE BE WITH YOU<br />
MICKY</p>
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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-704</link>
		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God’s will.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Genesis 50:20 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Romans 8:28 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The question of the will is so amusing for someone who is struggling with Christianity. For the Christian, it is a non-issue. If you want your free will, take it, but the very thing a Christian is, is the person who submits his will to the will of God, giving God all the glory, even for the ability to &#039;choose&#039;.

Matthew 6:10 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Matthew 26:42 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, &#039;My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.&#039;&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God’s will.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Genesis+50%3A20" class="bibleref" title="KJV Genesis 50:20" target="_new">Genesis 50:20</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Romans+8%3A28" class="bibleref" title="KJV Romans 8:28" target="_new">Romans 8:28</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The question of the will is so amusing for someone who is struggling with Christianity. For the Christian, it is a non-issue. If you want your free will, take it, but the very thing a Christian is, is the person who submits his will to the will of God, giving God all the glory, even for the ability to &#8216;choose&#8217;.</p>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Matthew+6%3A10" class="bibleref" title="KJV Matthew 6:10" target="_new">Matthew 6:10</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Matthew+26%3A42" class="bibleref" title="KJV Matthew 26:42" target="_new">Matthew 26:42</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, &#8216;My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Quintin</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>Quintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God’s will.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Genesis 50:20 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Romans 8:28 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The question of the will is so amusing for someone who is struggling with Christianity. For the Christian, it is a non-issue. If you want your free will, take it, but the very thing a Christian is, is the person who submits his will to the will of God, giving God all the glory, even for the ability to &#039;choose&#039;.

Matthew 6:10 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Matthew 26:42 &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, &#039;My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.&#039;&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God’s will.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Genesis+50%3A20" class="bibleref" title="KJV Genesis 50:20" target="_new">Genesis 50:20</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Romans+8%3A28" class="bibleref" title="KJV Romans 8:28" target="_new">Romans 8:28</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The question of the will is so amusing for someone who is struggling with Christianity. For the Christian, it is a non-issue. If you want your free will, take it, but the very thing a Christian is, is the person who submits his will to the will of God, giving God all the glory, even for the ability to &#8216;choose&#8217;.</p>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Matthew+6%3A10" class="bibleref" title="KJV Matthew 6:10" target="_new">Matthew 6:10</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Matthew+26%3A42" class="bibleref" title="KJV Matthew 26:42" target="_new">Matthew 26:42</a><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, &#8216;My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: whale</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is free will.
If you don&#039;t have to choose.
Search for the equals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is free will.<br />
If you don&#8217;t have to choose.<br />
Search for the equals.</p>
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		<title>By: whale</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>whale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is free will.
If you don&#039;t have to choose.
Search for the equals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is free will.<br />
If you don&#8217;t have to choose.<br />
Search for the equals.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceA</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>BruceA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God&#039;s will.  Adam and Eve in Genesis 3, Cain and his descendents in Genesis 4, and on down the line. Either God is not in control of actions that are contrary to his will, or the phrase &quot;God&#039;s will&quot; is meaningless.

The Greek work &lt;i&gt;agape&lt;/i&gt; means a love that is an act of the will. If we have no free will, all biblical references to agape are meaningless.

Philippians 2:12-13, &quot;Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you, enabling you both to will and to work for his good pleasure,&quot; indicates that salvation is a partnership between God and us.

In 1 Corinthians 9:26-27 and Philippians 3:12-15 Paul talks about his own responsibilities in persevering toward salvation. That&#039;s him exercising his own will, in conjunction with God&#039;s will.

I&#039;ll probably go into more detail on my own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God&#8217;s will.  Adam and Eve in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Genesis+3" class="bibleref" title="KJV Genesis 3" target="_new">Genesis 3</a>, Cain and his descendents in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Genesis+4" class="bibleref" title="KJV Genesis 4" target="_new">Genesis 4</a>, and on down the line. Either God is not in control of actions that are contrary to his will, or the phrase &#8220;God&#8217;s will&#8221; is meaningless.</p>
<p>The Greek work <i>agape</i> means a love that is an act of the will. If we have no free will, all biblical references to agape are meaningless.</p>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Philippians+2%3A12-13" class="bibleref" title="KJV Philippians 2:12-13" target="_new">Philippians 2:12-13</a>, &#8220;Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you, enabling you both to will and to work for his good pleasure,&#8221; indicates that salvation is a partnership between God and us.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=1+Corinthians+9%3A26-27" class="bibleref" title="KJV 1Corinthians 9:26-27" target="_new">1 Corinthians 9:26-27</a> and <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Philippians+3%3A12-15" class="bibleref" title="KJV Philippians 3:12-15" target="_new">Philippians 3:12-15</a> Paul talks about his own responsibilities in persevering toward salvation. That&#8217;s him exercising his own will, in conjunction with God&#8217;s will.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably go into more detail on my own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceA</title>
		<link>http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/07/09/further-musings-on-free-will/comment-page-1/#comment-1518</link>
		<dc:creator>BruceA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God&#039;s will.  Adam and Eve in Genesis 3, Cain and his descendents in Genesis 4, and on down the line. Either God is not in control of actions that are contrary to his will, or the phrase &quot;God&#039;s will&quot; is meaningless.

The Greek work &lt;i&gt;agape&lt;/i&gt; means a love that is an act of the will. If we have no free will, all biblical references to agape are meaningless.

Philippians 2:12-13, &quot;Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you, enabling you both to will and to work for his good pleasure,&quot; indicates that salvation is a partnership between God and us.

In 1 Corinthians 9:26-27 and Philippians 3:12-15 Paul talks about his own responsibilities in persevering toward salvation. That&#039;s him exercising his own will, in conjunction with God&#039;s will.

I&#039;ll probably go into more detail on my own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much the entirety of scripture is filled with examples of people acting in ways that are not in accordance with God&#8217;s will.  Adam and Eve in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Genesis+3" class="bibleref" title="KJV Genesis 3" target="_new">Genesis 3</a>, Cain and his descendents in <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Genesis+4" class="bibleref" title="KJV Genesis 4" target="_new">Genesis 4</a>, and on down the line. Either God is not in control of actions that are contrary to his will, or the phrase &#8220;God&#8217;s will&#8221; is meaningless.</p>
<p>The Greek work <i>agape</i> means a love that is an act of the will. If we have no free will, all biblical references to agape are meaningless.</p>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Philippians+2%3A12-13" class="bibleref" title="KJV Philippians 2:12-13" target="_new">Philippians 2:12-13</a>, &#8220;Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who is at work in you, enabling you both to will and to work for his good pleasure,&#8221; indicates that salvation is a partnership between God and us.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=1+Corinthians+9%3A26-27" class="bibleref" title="KJV 1Corinthians 9:26-27" target="_new">1 Corinthians 9:26-27</a> and <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=9&amp;passage=Philippians+3%3A12-15" class="bibleref" title="KJV Philippians 3:12-15" target="_new">Philippians 3:12-15</a> Paul talks about his own responsibilities in persevering toward salvation. That&#8217;s him exercising his own will, in conjunction with God&#8217;s will.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably go into more detail on my own blog.</p>
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