Comments on: The First Type of Evangelism http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/ Fear God and keep His commandments; for this is the whole duty of man - Ecclesiastes 12:13 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:49:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: The Preacher » Blog Archive » The First Type of Evangelism, part III http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/comment-page-1/#comment-509 The Preacher » Blog Archive » The First Type of Evangelism, part III Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:59:48 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/#comment-509 [...] the part one of this ongoing series, we talked about the Shema Yisrael and its connection to what Jesus Christ [...] [...] the part one of this ongoing series, we talked about the Shema Yisrael and its connection to what Jesus Christ [...]

]]> By: The Preacher » Blog Archive » The First Type of Evangelism, part II http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/comment-page-1/#comment-510 The Preacher » Blog Archive » The First Type of Evangelism, part II Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:33:38 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/#comment-510 [...] my first post in this series, I discussed the Shema Yisrael and its connection to what Jesus Christ calls the [...] [...] my first post in this series, I discussed the Shema Yisrael and its connection to what Jesus Christ calls the [...]

]]> By: Charles http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/comment-page-1/#comment-508 Charles Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:05:18 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/#comment-508 Hey Bruce, Based on this statement: <i>I guess what I really want to say is that if God is real in your ife (meaning you are genuinely seeking His will with your life), you will be “on” all the time. Which means you will be an evangelist to the stranger and an example to your loved ones (thus, discipling them). If you are “turning on the Christian” to knock on a door, there are problems.</i> I think we agree fairly strongly. Discipleship and evangelism are different in the sense that ministry is ultimately personal, and we craft what we say based on what we know of the other person, but discipleship and evangelism are one and the same in the sense that we are proclaiming the truth of God and we are going about the business of making disciples. Thanks for the response man, Charles Hey Bruce,
Based on this statement: I guess what I really want to say is that if God is real in your ife (meaning you are genuinely seeking His will with your life), you will be “on” all the time. Which means you will be an evangelist to the stranger and an example to your loved ones (thus, discipling them). If you are “turning on the Christian” to knock on a door, there are problems. I think we agree fairly strongly.

Discipleship and evangelism are different in the sense that ministry is ultimately personal, and we craft what we say based on what we know of the other person, but discipleship and evangelism are one and the same in the sense that we are proclaiming the truth of God and we are going about the business of making disciples.

Thanks for the response man,
Charles

]]> By: Bruce http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/comment-page-1/#comment-507 Bruce Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:34:26 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/02/22/first-type-of-evangelism/#comment-507 I don't know, aren't the two things disctinctly different - evangelism and discipleship? One thing I've always thought about preachers' kids that went wild and stayed that way, was that their father didn't demonstrate the love of Christ in his home like he spoke of it from the pulpit. (Obviously, I don't place your father in this camp.) So, even though they may have been "evangelized" they weren't properly discipled. They weren't led by example. They didn't observe their father praying fervently for them when he could have been watching TV or playing golf. Evangelism can be hit-and-run and still be effective, but only if there is <i>someone</i> to follow up with the life-long discipleship. But, like AA meetings, the sinaholic has to seek this out on their own to some extent (through church and the choosing of the right associations), right? I guess what I really want to say is that if God is real in your life (meaning you are genuinely seeking His will with your life), you will be "on" all the time. Which means you will be an evangelist to the stranger and an example to your loved ones (thus, discipling them). If you are "turning on the Christian" to knock on a door, there are problems. All that said, I totally agree with your main statement. (If you are not teaching your wife and your children...) But since we are all human, we will mess it up. From personal experience I have determined that it isn't the messing up that ruins us, but whether or not we make it right after. True disciples of God always seek to make it right (apologize, ask forgiveness, make restitution, whatever) and get back on track. I have the utmost respect for anyone who acts in such a way, and no respect for anyone who doesn't. You're supposed to give those cartoon tracts away? I thought you were supposed to collect the whole series! ;-) I don’t know, aren’t the two things disctinctly different – evangelism and discipleship? One thing I’ve always thought about preachers’ kids that went wild and stayed that way, was that their father didn’t demonstrate the love of Christ in his home like he spoke of it from the pulpit. (Obviously, I don’t place your father in this camp.) So, even though they may have been “evangelized” they weren’t properly discipled. They weren’t led by example. They didn’t observe their father praying fervently for them when he could have been watching TV or playing golf.

Evangelism can be hit-and-run and still be effective, but only if there is someone to follow up with the life-long discipleship. But, like AA meetings, the sinaholic has to seek this out on their own to some extent (through church and the choosing of the right associations), right?

I guess what I really want to say is that if God is real in your life (meaning you are genuinely seeking His will with your life), you will be “on” all the time. Which means you will be an evangelist to the stranger and an example to your loved ones (thus, discipling them). If you are “turning on the Christian” to knock on a door, there are problems.

All that said, I totally agree with your main statement. (If you are not teaching your wife and your children…)

But since we are all human, we will mess it up. From personal experience I have determined that it isn’t the messing up that ruins us, but whether or not we make it right after. True disciples of God always seek to make it right (apologize, ask forgiveness, make restitution, whatever) and get back on track. I have the utmost respect for anyone who acts in such a way, and no respect for anyone who doesn’t.

You’re supposed to give those cartoon tracts away? I thought you were supposed to collect the whole series! ;-)

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