Comments on: The Equation of Love http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/ Fear God and keep His commandments; for this is the whole duty of man - Ecclesiastes 12:13 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ivan http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-376 Ivan Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:40:52 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-376 Ariel I didn't quite understand that. sorry. Made up my mind? Kinda. But not absolutely. This is why I like to ask questions. Charles, I suspect Jesus was a wandering Prophet. I think there may have been a few of them at the time. Jesus appeared to grab the imagination of people of the day and he was eventually murdered by the Roman Government. I have not been able to uncover other evidence to point any kind of different picture. Can you help me? Ariel I didn’t quite understand that. sorry.

Made up my mind? Kinda. But not absolutely. This is why I like to ask questions. Charles, I suspect Jesus was a wandering Prophet. I think there may have been a few of them at the time. Jesus appeared to grab the imagination of people of the day and he was eventually murdered by the Roman Government. I have not been able to uncover other evidence to point any kind of different picture. Can you help me?

]]> By: Ivan http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-1307 Ivan Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:40:00 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-1307 Ariel I didn't quite understand that. sorry. Made up my mind? Kinda. But not absolutely. This is why I like to ask questions. Charles, I suspect Jesus was a wandering Prophet. I think there may have been a few of them at the time. Jesus appeared to grab the imagination of people of the day and he was eventually murdered by the Roman Government. I have not been able to uncover other evidence to point any kind of different picture. Can you help me? Ariel I didn’t quite understand that. sorry.

Made up my mind? Kinda. But not absolutely. This is why I like to ask questions. Charles, I suspect Jesus was a wandering Prophet. I think there may have been a few of them at the time. Jesus appeared to grab the imagination of people of the day and he was eventually murdered by the Roman Government. I have not been able to uncover other evidence to point any kind of different picture. Can you help me?

]]> By: Charles http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-375 Charles Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:59:12 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-375 Ivan, Most of these things that you ask about are only worth discussing once you've settled other things. Unless I'm mistaken, you don't believe that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired Word of God. The central thing for you to determine is who is Jesus Christ, and once you have decided that, the rest of these issues are easy to deal with. I suspect you've already made up your mind. Charles Ivan,
Most of these things that you ask about are only worth discussing once you’ve settled other things. Unless I’m mistaken, you don’t believe that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired Word of God. The central thing for you to determine is who is Jesus Christ, and once you have decided that, the rest of these issues are easy to deal with. I suspect you’ve already made up your mind.

Charles

]]> By: Charles http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-1306 Charles Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:59:00 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-1306 Ivan, Most of these things that you ask about are only worth discussing once you've settled other things. Unless I'm mistaken, you don't believe that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired Word of God. The central thing for you to determine is who is Jesus Christ, and once you have decided that, the rest of these issues are easy to deal with. I suspect you've already made up your mind. Charles Ivan,
Most of these things that you ask about are only worth discussing once you’ve settled other things. Unless I’m mistaken, you don’t believe that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired Word of God. The central thing for you to determine is who is Jesus Christ, and once you have decided that, the rest of these issues are easy to deal with. I suspect you’ve already made up your mind.

Charles

]]> By: Ariel http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-374 Ariel Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:04:19 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-374 <i>I think that comparing us to a “child” is just another way of saying “I will not investigate because I am comfortable in my ignorance.</i> All the children I have met combine an admirable capacity for trust with a remarkable curiosity about things they don't know, even about things they <i>can't</i> know. And that is just the point. Curiosity and trust are not mutually exclusive, and in healthy minds they are not. Chalk one up for the "children." I think that comparing us to a “child” is just another way of saying “I will not investigate because I am comfortable in my ignorance.

All the children I have met combine an admirable capacity for trust with a remarkable curiosity about things they don’t know, even about things they can’t know. And that is just the point. Curiosity and trust are not mutually exclusive, and in healthy minds they are not. Chalk one up for the “children.”

]]> By: Ariel http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-1305 Ariel Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:04:00 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-1305 <i>I think that comparing us to a “child” is just another way of saying “I will not investigate because I am comfortable in my ignorance.</i> All the children I have met combine an admirable capacity for trust with a remarkable curiosity about things they don't know, even about things they <i>can't</i> know. And that is just the point. Curiosity and trust are not mutually exclusive, and in healthy minds they are not. Chalk one up for the "children." I think that comparing us to a “child” is just another way of saying “I will not investigate because I am comfortable in my ignorance.

All the children I have met combine an admirable capacity for trust with a remarkable curiosity about things they don’t know, even about things they can’t know. And that is just the point. Curiosity and trust are not mutually exclusive, and in healthy minds they are not. Chalk one up for the “children.”

]]> By: Ivan http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-373 Ivan Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:34:09 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-373 Charles, One more question. When the crucifixion event was over, What happened to all the disciples? Did they all go their separate ways? If so, Why don't you think they would have remained together? Also, From what documents were the Gospels taken from? Does anyone have any idea there true age? (The original copies) Ivan Charles,

One more question. When the crucifixion event was over, What happened to all the disciples? Did they all go their separate ways? If so, Why don’t you think they would have remained together?
Also, From what documents were the Gospels taken from? Does anyone have any idea there true age? (The original copies)

Ivan

]]> By: Ivan http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-1304 Ivan Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:34:00 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-1304 Charles, One more question. When the crucifixion event was over, What happened to all the disciples? Did they all go their separate ways? If so, Why don't you think they would have remained together? Also, From what documents were the Gospels taken from? Does anyone have any idea there true age? (The original copies) Ivan Charles,

One more question. When the crucifixion event was over, What happened to all the disciples? Did they all go their separate ways? If so, Why don’t you think they would have remained together?
Also, From what documents were the Gospels taken from? Does anyone have any idea there true age? (The original copies)

Ivan

]]> By: Ivan http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-372 Ivan Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:17:14 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-372 Charles, Can you explain this to me: You mention that sin and death had to be defeated, hence I guess the crucifixion story. Did it work? Why don't people live forever OT style? It must have then defeated Sin once and for all.. do we still sin? God was in charge at all times, so the barbarism of the death of Jesus ultimately rests with God doesn't it? After the fact of Jesus sacrifice, what came out of it as good? We are exactly the same in character are we not? We still get judged and may go to hell right? Why punish Adam so darn long after the event? Why not punish the individual rather than all humanity forever? Why punish of all people in the world Jesus? And biggest question for me: Adam disobeyed with everything in his favour.. he was a baby almost. Innocent beyond belief. He was tricked by a slightly lesser God than God himself.. How can a "just" God punish humanity forever for the one instance, the most innocent man on Earth was tricked by a God no less. Can you help me understand this better Charles? Ivan Charles,

Can you explain this to me: You mention that sin and death had to be defeated, hence I guess the crucifixion story. Did it work? Why don’t people live forever OT style? It must have then defeated Sin once and for all.. do we still sin? God was in charge at all times, so the barbarism of the death of Jesus ultimately rests with God doesn’t it? After the fact of Jesus sacrifice, what came out of it as good? We are exactly the same in character are we not? We still get judged and may go to hell right? Why punish Adam so darn long after the event? Why not punish the individual rather than all humanity forever? Why punish of all people in the world Jesus? And biggest question for me: Adam disobeyed with everything in his favour.. he was a baby almost. Innocent beyond belief. He was tricked by a slightly lesser God than God himself.. How can a “just” God punish humanity forever for the one instance, the most innocent man on Earth was tricked by a God no less. Can you help me understand this better Charles?

Ivan

]]> By: Ivan http://thepreacher.cac2.net/2007/01/04/the-equation-of-love/comment-page-1/#comment-1303 Ivan Sat, 06 Jan 2007 23:17:00 +0000 http://thepreacher.cac2.net/?p=25#comment-1303 Charles, Can you explain this to me: You mention that sin and death had to be defeated, hence I guess the crucifixion story. Did it work? Why don't people live forever OT style? It must have then defeated Sin once and for all.. do we still sin? God was in charge at all times, so the barbarism of the death of Jesus ultimately rests with God doesn't it? After the fact of Jesus sacrifice, what came out of it as good? We are exactly the same in character are we not? We still get judged and may go to hell right? Why punish Adam so darn long after the event? Why not punish the individual rather than all humanity forever? Why punish of all people in the world Jesus? And biggest question for me: Adam disobeyed with everything in his favour.. he was a baby almost. Innocent beyond belief. He was tricked by a slightly lesser God than God himself.. How can a "just" God punish humanity forever for the one instance, the most innocent man on Earth was tricked by a God no less. Can you help me understand this better Charles? Ivan Charles,

Can you explain this to me: You mention that sin and death had to be defeated, hence I guess the crucifixion story. Did it work? Why don’t people live forever OT style? It must have then defeated Sin once and for all.. do we still sin? God was in charge at all times, so the barbarism of the death of Jesus ultimately rests with God doesn’t it? After the fact of Jesus sacrifice, what came out of it as good? We are exactly the same in character are we not? We still get judged and may go to hell right? Why punish Adam so darn long after the event? Why not punish the individual rather than all humanity forever? Why punish of all people in the world Jesus? And biggest question for me: Adam disobeyed with everything in his favour.. he was a baby almost. Innocent beyond belief. He was tricked by a slightly lesser God than God himself.. How can a “just” God punish humanity forever for the one instance, the most innocent man on Earth was tricked by a God no less. Can you help me understand this better Charles?

Ivan

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